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Face it, most of America felt the lack of respect demonstrated by that politician from South Carolina was distasteful and utterly indefensible at best. He was given the opportunity to publicly apologize and he didn't. He got what he deserved, small punishment for a small man. He should consider himself fortunate.
The good people of South Carolina, regardless of their political opinions, expect better from their representatives.
This is not about politics, it's about professionalism, decorum and class. Joe Wilson (R-SC) has none of those traits.
By MildlyMisanthropic , Posted September 16, 2009 5:22 AMOnly because Democrats were chastised for their outburst during Bush's State of the Union address in 2005. Oh wait, they were not. I guess Newt Gingrich didn't want to waste time or taxpayer money going after all the Democrats that booed Bush in 2005. This vote was, just like every other vote this year, straight down party lines. Talk about government waste. And these same people think they can cut $500,000,000,000 of government waste from Medicare so they can run Obama-care? Fat chance! Pigs will fly before this happens. If they cut "waste" it will likely be in the form of benefits to those old seniors. Pelosi probably thinks they should just hurry up and croak anyway and stop wasting all the money that they put into the system the both Republicans and Democrats used as their personal piggy bank over the last 70+ years. Just more hypocrisy from the left.
By Common Kevin , Posted September 16, 2009 5:55 AMMost definitely. He acted like a hooligan. There are consequences for inappropriate behavior.
By Frank , Posted September 16, 2009 7:15 AMIn all the brouhaha over "appropriateness," one vital question is being missed: DID Obama lie?
By Stephen Kosciesza , Posted September 16, 2009 7:21 AMI voted no, but I also emailed Rep. Wilson to suggest--maybe he would have done better to apologize to the House, and NOT to Obamanation.
Mr. Wilson apologized to the president, so he's set things to right with him. What he forgot is that he also threw dirt upon the image of the House; in fact, his little outburst was against one of Congress' rules of conduct. He didn't do anything about that, so he got what was coming to him. Case closed.
By CM Levin , Posted September 16, 2009 7:33 AMHe should have been more than chastised. He should have been thrown out of the House altogether. We Democrats must take full advantage of our power while we still have it.
By Diogenes , Posted September 16, 2009 7:41 AMWhatever happened to Freedom of Speech? Joe already apologized to President Obama. Does he really need to get on his knees and kiss Pelosi's ring as if she is the pope? It appears that even if he did that she and the rest of the house would still not have been satisfied. The real question is was this racially charged since Clyburn lead the charge? Did Clyburn lead the charge because he wanted revenge for Wilson having a Town Hall Meeting in his district last month or did he want revenge on a white male also from S.C. because he experienced racism while living there? Even the President said it should be dropped and move on. Too bad he can not control his minions in the house or Holder. If he can not control them, who will follow him besides his dedicated lemmings?
By LOL , Posted September 16, 2009 7:56 AMInobtrustive booing, grumbling, and pulling faces in the peanut gallery is the limit on acceptability, I think; these get your point across without necessarily creating a new line of dialogue. Actually shouting and engaging with the speaker is the issue in a derogatory manner is the issue here.
And don't get all high and mighty about the Republicans not wanting to waste our time when Democrats booed Bush. Remember that bumper sticker from a few years back? "When Clinton lied, no one died?" Yeah, well if Obama lied, guess what: everyone'd actually be *healthier*. Gasp, what would Conservatives do then?
By Was Buf., Now Was. , Posted September 16, 2009 7:57 AMThe better question is: Is President Obama racist for calling Kayne West a "jackass?"
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 7:59 AMhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090915/ap_on_en_tv/us_tv_obama_tweet
He broke protocol and behaved boorishly. So now that the resolution has been passed, Congress should put it behind them and not pay any more attention to him than he deserves.
By VeggieTart , Posted September 16, 2009 8:02 AMI agree that he needed to apologize, he did, and the White House accepted it. I think Congress wasted time voting on whether or not they should officially admonish him as well. Based on what I have read in the news, Congress has better things to vote on right now.
By Mr Walker , Posted September 16, 2009 8:09 AMJust like the boy in the story of the Emperor’s New Clothes, Representative Wilson said what he had to say. I think he’s man enough to pay the price for violating parliamentary procedure, but somehow I don’t think he’ll regret it too awfully much in the long run.
By Den Hollinden , Posted September 16, 2009 8:15 AMThe citizens of South Carolina should be proud that their representative demonstrated all the respect that should be afforded this lying president. Hussein does not really deserve an apology, nor do the hypocritical democrats/liberals/RINOs. No one would apologize for telling a policeman that he is a policeman.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 8:30 AMYes, the political equivalent of Kanye West deserves to chastised. Maybe he should apologize on Jay Leno and The View.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 8:31 AMDid the House of Reps. get their playbook from Johnny Cochran? As long as the MSM and subsequently, the American public, is looking at the dazzling left hand they won't notice what the right hand is doing. Bravo to Speaker Pelosi for the magician skills.
By C. Cooper , Posted September 16, 2009 8:33 AMNo. He apologized to the president, and his apology was accepted. That should have been the end of it. But the petty egotists in the House --in this case, Democrats-- demanded their pound of flesh. As a result, Rep. Wilson has been flooded with campaign contributions. So much for putting his congressional seat in play. Way to go Dems.
By Diogenes , Posted September 16, 2009 8:44 AMHell yea! Rep. Wilson and Kanye West -- both major jackasses! Enough said.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 8:49 AMYes - but that said - now that Wilson has been chastisedit's time to move on, as has the President. Congress would do well to waste no more time on this two-bit yahoo throw-back. Resume focus on addressing this two-bit corporate healthcare "system," of which the main benificiaries are corporations. Let's get a real system established.
By Lowspark , Posted September 16, 2009 8:51 AMYes - but that said - now that Wilson has been chastisedit's time to move on, as has the President. Congress would do well to waste no more time on this two-bit yahoo throw-back. Resume focus on addressing this two-bit corporate healthcare "system," of which the main benificiaries are corporations. Let's get a real system established.
By Lowspark , Posted September 16, 2009 8:51 AMYes. Whether they like it or not, people like Rep. Wilson and Kanye West are role models for young people. There is a time to speak out and a time to keep quiet. These people should know this and should learn to control their actions and their tongues.
By Nancy , Posted September 16, 2009 9:00 AM@ Common Kevin
Uh, Newt Gingrich wasn't Speaker of the House in 2005 -- he served from 1995-99. Dennis Hastert was the speaker in '05, and no Democratic Representative interrupted President Bush during an address to the joint session of Congress.
By MildlyMisanthropic , Posted September 16, 2009 9:04 AMDo I think Rep. Wilson deserved to BE chastised for his outburst? No not really. Especially not in the manner it happened. What a (typical) colossal waste of time and money. Was it appropriate? No. Accurate? Most likely.
By simple pig farmer , Posted September 16, 2009 9:04 AMMildlyMisanthropic,
By Common Kevin , Posted September 16, 2009 9:39 AM"Uh, Newt Gingrich wasn't Speaker of the House in 2005 -- he served from 1995-99. Dennis Hastert was the speaker in '05, and no Democratic Representative interrupted President Bush during an address to the joint session of Congress."
Thank you for the correction. Both were Republicans though and you are correct that no SINGLE "Democratic Representative interrupted President Bush." It was just many of them interrupting him when they booed him. I don't see the difference between Democrats booing Bush when he is speaking at a joint session of Congress and calling someone out when they are misleading the public as Wilson did with Obama. They are one and the same since both instances interrupted the president's speech. This whole thing was just more government waste of our tax money by Congress. If they had to pay for the costs personally I wonder if they still would have pursued this useless task.
MildlyMisanthropic,
By Common Kevin , Posted September 16, 2009 9:41 AMForgot the link.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/10/flashback_democrats_boo_bush_at_2005_state_of_the_union.html
Yes, he deserved. I know we have more important issues to deal with. But if our policy makers can't handle them in a respectful and constructive way, what can we achieve anyway?
United we stand - to sink this big ship. Look at the congress, that's what exactly happens right now.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 9:44 AM@ Common Kevin (aka LOL, Impostor Diogenes, etc)
By Diogenes , Posted September 16, 2009 9:45 AM"I guess Newt Gingrich didn't want to waste time or taxpayer money going after all the Democrats that booed Bush in 2005." Ahahahahahahaha! First, as MildlyMisanthropic already pointed out, Newt Gingrich wasn't Speaker in 2005. And second, if Gingrich was so concerned with sparing taxpayers' time and money, why was he the principal cheerleader of that colossal cluster$%&@ of waste known as the Clinton impeachment? You make no sense. And please, seek help for your multiple personality disorder.
OMG! Of course Joe Wilson deserved to be chastised for his outburst.
HOW DARE JOE WILSON engage in such disrespectful behavior? As others have said, it is undoubtedly true that Wilson was motivated by a deep-seeded hatred of anyone who is not lily-white, and just cannot stand the fact that an African American is President. For THAT alone, Wilson deserves all the shame and scorn that can be heaped onto him
But more than that, Wilson attacked the policies of a man elected to usher in a new era of peace, prosperity, gender-equality, justice, and love, and in so doing, put himself on the side of the corrupt cronies and thugs of the illegal and immoral tyrants who were part of the Bush-Cheney regime of torture, war, and huge payouts to cronies.
Wilson should be kicked out of the House of Representatives. The sad thing is that the people of his own district elected him, reflecting their own racism and love of tyranny, war, torture, and corruption. After Wilson is kicked out of the House, hus replacement should be elected by the other members of the House of Representatives -- there would be more opportunity to have Wilson replaced by someone who truly understands that racism is not tolerated, and that we are in a NEW ERA of Peace, Prosperity, Justice, Gender-Equality, and Love.
By Zora Hopkins , Posted September 16, 2009 9:53 AMYes! Rules are rules. What's the point of having them if they are not enforceable?
By TH , Posted September 16, 2009 10:01 AMWhat MildlyMisanthropic said sums up my thoughts exactly.
By Kevin , Posted September 16, 2009 10:04 AMWilson did not even apologize to President Obama. He apologized to the President's chief of staff. Moreover, it was only after Republican leaderships forced his hands. So let's get that straight.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 10:21 AMChastising Wilson was just a big waste of time and taxpayer money. No more, no less. I get such amusement on here when Diogenes feels so threatened and verbally attacks people like Common Kevin, LOL, GW, and others. He is either really small below the belt or was beat up in school. I would love for them all to meet in real life and see the results. I would probably die of laughter, but it would be worth it.
By This is so Funny , Posted September 16, 2009 10:28 AMShe is baaaaccck. Zora Hopkins is just another racist in D.C. Zora, where is the bi-partisanship we were promised? Where are the peace and prosperity also? We are still at war in Afghanistan in case you haven't noticed. Zora said "someone who truly understands that racism is not tolerated." This is clearly not Zora the racist. The door swings both ways dear and do not let it hit you in the rear on your way out. When is Pelosi getting kicked out for calling the CIA liars? Maybe we can replace her with someone more sane. Anyone would do.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 10:35 AM@ Common Kevin, 9:39 a.m.:
" I don't see the difference between Democrats booing Bush when he is speaking at a joint session of Congress and calling someone out when they are misleading the public as Wilson did with Obama."
You don't see the difference?
OMG! OMG!
Bush LIED! He lied and people DIED! Bush was pure evil -- and Cheney, too! They (along with their cronies, lackies, and agents of corruption) led this nation into a totally immoral and unjust WAR OF AGRESSION!
Bush deserved to be BOOED OFF THE PLATFORM in the Congress! A HUGE "BRAVO' was merited to those courageous Democrats who loudly and proudly humiliated the WORST PRESIDENT EVER!
There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between what happened in 2005 and the vile, disgusting, juvenile, and RACIST behavior of Joe Wilson.
I'm sorry you are too blind to see it!
By Zora Hopkins , Posted September 16, 2009 10:41 AMI think it was fitting that he apologized to President Obama... other than that it's just one side trying to score political points at the expense of the other.
By chris , Posted September 16, 2009 10:45 AMZora @ 10:41 AM (Diogenes),
By Common Kevin , Posted September 16, 2009 11:00 AMI suggest you take your own advice at 9:45 AM and seek help. Democrats booed Bush when he was giving a speech on Social Security. What is the difference? THEY BOTH LIED and people WILL DIE under Obama-care as well. What is good for the goose is good for the gander!
Zora Hopkins , Posted September 16, 2009 9:53 AM
Not everything has to do with race. Please turn your computer back off. We enjoyed your sebatical. Even "Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 10:35 AM" thinks you have some issues and you are not looking at the world through anything but rose colored glasses.
In my opinion, race is only brought into play by people that have no argument against the points brought up by the other side. Obama is human and he will make mistakes and break campaign promises (inluding going to Congress to actively request extending Bush era policies) (see link and below):
"The Obama administration has asked Congress to extend three contentious provisions of the USA Patriot Act - a bill once described by President Obama as "shoddy" - and urged an appeals court to deny access to U.S. courts for detainees at a military prison in Afghanistan.
The three portions permit roving wiretaps, the seizure of certain business records and the monitoring of suspected "lone wolf" terrorists. Mr. Weich said the administration is willing to consider modifications that provide additional privacy protections provided they do not undermine the effectiveness of the provisions.
Civil liberties groups immediately criticized both moves, which would extend Bush-era terrorism policies that have long been unpopular with Democrats."
Sorry, but like any other president, Obama is a man that is put into a position that carries more burden than one thinks when campaigning. His choices will be based on what information he has access to as president that he did not as a Senator and therefore may not match his campaign promises. However, I doubt that the ACLU is racist, but they disapprove of the request documented above.
By Just for Zora , Posted September 16, 2009 11:37 AMBarack Obama is the President. And regardless if you like his policies or not, he deserves the respect of a President.
By Brian C. Sellman , Posted September 16, 2009 11:49 AMI born & raised in S.C. I know disrespect and I know racism. Joe Wilson will not get my vote in the next election.
By j robinson , Posted September 16, 2009 11:52 AMRep Wilson (R-SC) should be chastised, spanked, finger wagged and whatever else Nancy wants to do. But if yelling an inconvenient truth on the House Floor gets you chastised, what fate lies in store for Mr. Rangel (D-NY)???
By another person , Posted September 16, 2009 11:57 AMYes, a "public" apology would have been the appropriate way for Rep. Wilson to atone for his "public" outburst. Since he refused, the House took the necessary action. Apologizing privately in a phone call to Rahm Emanuel just doesn't cut it.
By An independent's point of view. , Posted September 16, 2009 12:17 PMIt was all due to ethics. No matter how much you can disagree with a president, he is still the president. Respect is due when he speaks, You disagree later... in that case as they worked/revised the Health Care Reform Bill. Thats where [civilized] ethics and politics are starting to fail now days. If in a school they had the president over and a child screamed, "You Lie" and "Not true", would it not be expected that he be aprehended in some way by his teacher... and yet they show more respect to the President then this adult did.
By JC , Posted September 16, 2009 12:30 PMj robinson 11:52
I don't think any current member of Congress should be reelected.
BTW: Calling someone a liar is not tantamount to being a racist. You are right and it was disrepectful.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 12:35 PMYes. Anyone who disrespects our President should be chastised just as the Iraqi shoe thrower who was punished for throwing a shoe at the leader of our country at that time that is totally disrespectful.
By Ericka , Posted September 16, 2009 12:41 PM@ Was Buf,
By Durr , Posted September 16, 2009 12:46 PMNo, if Obama lied, it means we all get to pay the medical bills of people who are in our country illegally.
@ Common Kevin (aka LOL and whoever else you may be posing as today)
I provide as evidence of your multiple personality disorder the citations indicated below. You'll note the identical sentence structure, same lame epithets, and repeated juvenile spelling mistakes. Heck, not even coincidence theory could explain away this sad attempt at deception. Again, I urge you to seek medical attention. Clearly you're not stable.
BHO has pushed the spending pedal to the medal [sic] and locked the wheel such that we are headed straight toward the cliff with no "hope" of changing direction before we plummet to our deaths.
By LOL, Posted September 14, 2009 9:31 AM
Obama is breaking all records when it comes to driving the car off the cliff. The only difference between GWB and BHO is that BHO has pushed the pedal to the medal [sic] and locked the wheel to drive us off the cliff.
By Common Kevin , Posted September 11, 2009 9:27 AM
Clearly you are a racist lemonade licking lemming Liberal…
By Common Kevin , Posted September 11, 2009 9:27 AM
You are in a serious state of denial. This says it all. Stop licking lemonade.
By LOL , Posted September 10, 2009 11:08 AM
Obama and far left Lemonade Licking Loons…
By Diogenes , Posted September 16, 2009 12:51 PMBy Common Kevin , Posted August 21, 2009 5:50 AM
The solution to all disagreements, particularly those tinged with racial aspects, has already been established. Obama clearly needs to invite Wilson to the White House for beer.
By Special Olympic Bowler , Posted September 16, 2009 12:59 PM@ zora the insufferable lunatic
Wilson should be kicked out of the House and replaced by someone selected by the remaining members of the House? Are you effing kidding me? Why don't we just get rid of the entire Congress and let king obama run the show for the rest of his life. That form of "government" works out so well.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 1:01 PMAbsolutely. There are rules of decorum in the House. He broke them and should suffer the appropriate consequences, plain and simple.
By Defense Lib , Posted September 16, 2009 1:18 PMOne group would like people to sit idly by and let our President (and other leaders) say and do whatever he wants without questioning him in any fashion because of his position. Some are afraid of his position and some want to make the idea that the President was questioned a race issue. This is unproductive and irresponsible as US citizens.
The other group would like to be able to question what he says and what he does because of his position. This is for accountability and can be done responsibly.
Neither group agrees that yelling solves anything. In spite of the curt comments here today, I doubt many would agree calling names is mature or responsible. Most also agree politicians have their own agendas and do lie to the public at times.
BOTTOM LINE: Either way, WE CANNOT BLINDLY FOLLOW ANYONE. Our responsibility as citizens is to question government and hold them accountable, regardless of political party, race, gender, etc. That can be done in an appropriate manner.
TERTIARY COMMENT: As human beings, we have the means to lead, follow, or get out of the way. Complaining about an issue, as well as being reluctant to listen to others and identify solutions (even those that do not match your ideas) has never solved a thing. That is an example of a closed mind and unless the person was a dictator, no one has made progress without an open mind. We do not have to agree on everything to make progress, but we must be willing to compromise at times.
By My observation and comment on today's diatribes , Posted September 16, 2009 1:30 PM@ Diogenes
Zora Hopkins at 0953 and Zora Hopkins at 1041 do not write the same. The later one does not match Zora's normal eccentricities.
What do you think?
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 1:35 PMDiogenes,
By LOL , Posted September 16, 2009 1:43 PMYou seriously need help. I may have repeated a few phrases from CK, but you really need to seek help for your paranoid schizophrenia. Even the Mayo Clinic suggests you seek help as soon as possible. Let's hope Obama-care does get passed for your poor sake. You really need to get out of your parent's basement since you clearly have no life and are haunted by the "hope" that we are one in the same. I guess you think I am GW also? Maybe CK is right that you and Zora are one in the same. Please, you need help and a life little boy.
Anonymous @ 1:35 PM,
By I do not LIE , Posted September 16, 2009 1:55 PMZora at 10:41 AM is clearly Diogenes as CK suggested. This is the only person that I see repeatedly bashing others that do not agree with him/her.
@ Zora at 9:53 am
You said:
“Wilson should be kicked out of the House of Representatives. After Wilson is kicked out of the House, hus (SIC) replacement should be elected by the other members of the House of Representatives -- there would be more opportunity to have Wilson replaced by someone who truly understands that racism is not tolerated, and that we are in a NEW ERA of Peace, “Prosperity, Justice, Gender-Equality, and Love.”
I ask:
My question to you is why should his replacement not be picked by his constituents? Is that not how things are done in a democracy? Do you no longer want to live in a democracy? Utopia does not exist, even for Express Night Out’s primary lunatic.
By Supreme Leader Obama , Posted September 16, 2009 2:01 PM@ I do not LIE, 1:55 p.m.
For your information, I AM ZORA HOPKINS!
In case there is any confusion at all, I am Zora Hopkins.
I have posted this same message on my DemocraticUnderground journal page. You can get there by following the link from my name. Only I (Zora Hopkins) can post things on my DemocraticUnderground journal page.
If you go there, you will see my recent posts to expressnightout.
And I do NOT bash anyone who does not agree with me. I simply TELL THE TRUTH and SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER!!
Some may call that bashing. I say it is being a GOOD AMERICAN.
I am Zora Hopkins, and I have spoken.
Deal with it.
By Zora Hopkins , Posted September 16, 2009 2:06 PMZora,
I believe you want Totalitarianism as your primary form of government based on how you want people replaced when they upset "your leader".
FYI: Totalitarianism is a form of government. It refers to enforced or imposed political power by an official, on the basis of an ideology. Totalitarianism thrives on the dictates of disseminated propaganda, state-controlled media, and personality cults. In this political system, the ruling power exercises complete control over the nation's economy, and law and order. Restrictions on the freedom of speech and assembly, and the extensive use of mass surveillance aides the political power, mostly self-proclaimed, to unleash state-terrorism.
Any organization or political party which does show signs of trying to dominate all aspects of life should be viewed with significant suspicion. If a political party seeks to create organizations for the purpose of sport, music, private welfare, literature, or the education of children, this should be regarded as an early push toward totalitarianism: the desire to have total domination over all of person’s life.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 2:17 PMYes, but are there no rules for the President when he speaks to Congress? At least three times he said his opponents made "bogus claims", told "tall tales" and that one of their claims "is a lie". Where is the outcry for the President to refrain from that.
Worst of all, in closing Obama said, "I still believe we can restore civility." What an insult to our intelligence. Am I the only one who thinks civility is a two-way street?
By brad2 , Posted September 16, 2009 2:22 PMZora,
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 2:24 PMIt appears that you and Joe Wilson have something in common. You are both racists by your own admission.
I have to wonder why so much time and energy is being spent on the relatively harmless ethical violations by Mr. Wilson, yet not a peep about the real ethical (and criminal?) violations by the likes of Rangle and Murtha.
By Just wishing they'd all get back to work , Posted September 16, 2009 2:30 PMTH,
LOL! You are joking right. If so, it's a great one!
If not, the reason it's funny is that's exactly why Wilson said Obama was lieing, because the d's have language that says no money goes to illegal aliens but they specifically voted against any method of checking for citiizenship.
By brad2 , Posted September 16, 2009 2:32 PMThere's an old saying that goes you act or dress like trash, you'll be treated like trash. Jim Wilson deserves whatever punishment he get for his unprofessional behavior. I can see some folks don't understand the concept of discretion is the better valor.
By Ron The Don , Posted September 16, 2009 2:37 PMBrad2 at 2:22 PM
I agree with you. Civility is a two way street. We often do not practice that on this site either.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 2:41 PMJust wishing they'd all get back to work , Posted September 16, 2009 2:30 PM
Too many people who post on this blog are hopping on party politics and only think Republicans can do bad things. Evidentially Democrats are above reproach.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 2:47 PMIf the Democrats can continue to monopolize the key positions, we can oust the Republicans, change the laws, and appoint our leaders versus letting the uneducated herds vote. Then we will have a ew era of peace, prosperity, justice, gender-equality, and love. We can imprison anyone who does not see it our way to ensure that new era.
By Obamanation , Posted September 16, 2009 2:52 PM@brad2
No, I was not joking. Rules are rules. Why do we even have rules if no one will follow them?
I was trying not to be divisive, but here I go. I believe that President Obama was technically telling the truth. The bill does not give illegals anything more than what they have now. Section 246 clearly stated that no federal payment for undocumented aliens shall be allowed. I understand the enforcement issue here. However citizenship are not being checked now, so how is this any different? Moreover, let say you get stabbed and need immediate care. Are you willing to jump the red tapes and hoops for the hospital to do a background check before they give you medical treatment?
Now back to the poll question. Yes, Wilson should be chastised. There is a time to speak and a time not to speak. When a head of state is addressing a joint-session of Congress, it is not the time to speak. The kids at my old high school, Wakefield, understood that well last week. They were well behavior in comparison to this sitting Congressman. He could disagree with the President all he wants, just do it AFTER the speech.
By TH , Posted September 16, 2009 2:59 PMHis timing was bad but his "you lie" message hit the bulls eye. If Obama had pinocchio's nose the end of it would be in Russia some where. It is very hipocriticial for the house to make an issue of Wilson's behavior when a crook like Charley Rangel sits and watches.
By JP , Posted September 16, 2009 3:34 PMHa ha ha! You dorks got schooled by Zora Hopkins! Classic! Now, as for Common Kevin/LOL's homoerotic love-fest of plagiarism, well, that's just pathetic. I mean, it would be funny if it were true, but hello, we're not all Fox News viewers here. Some of us actually have critical thinking skills. Ba-zing! And with regard to George Washington, I would never mistake his posts for those of the intellectually inferior Kevsie/LOL. In fact, I rather enjoy George's musings, much as I disagree with him philosophically. Funny how that works, eh?
By Diogenes , Posted September 16, 2009 3:35 PMZora Hopkins @ 2:06 PM,
By I do not LIE , Posted September 16, 2009 4:05 PMIf you are the real Zora Hopkins as you claim, then that just means that you are in fact posing as Diogenes as well. I think it is time for you to check back into the hospital and take your meds Diogenes. You are both clearly off your rockers and need a job once you have been checked out of the hospital. I guess we really need for you to have free medical so you can get checked out before it is too late which it may very well be.
Diogenes,
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 4:09 PMWho has critical thinking skills other than maybe GW because you are clearly not in that group? We all do not watch MSNBC and have a warm fuzzy climbing up our legs like you do either. I guess someone has to watch MSNBC to keep them in business although their failure is inevitable, but I am sure they will just be the next bailout that is too big to fail.
Wilson never apologized to anyone for anything. He was and is wrong and failed to admit that in his sham 'apology' to Rahm Emanual that he was forced to make by his orange dad, John Boehner.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 5:28 PMAbsolutely not!!! He spoke the truth related to the subject matter being discussed - unlike all our elected officials who continue to lie. The media has lost credibility in this country and they are doing this to themselves and by their own deeds. Take accountability and responsibility to report the facts, nothing more!!! We the people will decide and discuss just as our founding fathers did long ago in these United States of America!!! God Bless America!!!
By Jeff , Posted September 16, 2009 5:37 PMStephen,
What the hell are you talking about?? Your premise is f'd up. This has absolutely nothing to do with Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This has to do with Joe Wilson...and ONLY Joe Wilson and how he was raised. I can't hate the devil himself, Bush, Cheney and everyone else in the GOP. But, you afford people courtesy and respect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This has to do with simple human being behavior. Nothing more. It is amazing to me that you see past that point. It doesn't matter if Obama lied or not. Bush clearly lied about the war. If I was sitting in Wilson's chair, under NO circumstances would I scream out "You Lie" to Bujsh if he addressed a joint session of Congress on national television. I hate his guts and I wish he'd die, get run over by a Mack truck, etc. etc. etc. But I would never, EVER scream "You Lied" to the POTUS on national television. It is completely disrespectful. This is the problem with members of the GOP who don't understand this basic human concept. This has to do with Wilson's professionalism, ethics, morals and personal behavior. Nothing more. I could careless whether Obama lied. Personally, I think he did. I don't care. I was shocked MORE from Wilson's childess, immature, despicable, irresponsible, ridiculous, inhumane behavior. Obviously millions of people felt the same, including Wilson himself because he himself felt the need to apologize before he was asked.
By MTL , Posted September 16, 2009 6:41 PMWhat he did was disrespectful to the rules of conduct in the House as well as to the office of the President of the United States. He deserved to be chastised.
By Anonymous , Posted September 16, 2009 6:42 PM@ Doigenes 3:35 PM
It is shameful that one who tries to make valid arguments sinks to name calling.
By Anonymous , Posted September 17, 2009 7:57 AMMTL,
By Anonymous , Posted September 17, 2009 8:17 AMI guess you also had a problem with the disrespect that the Democrats showed Bush in 2005 when they booed him during a State of the Union address, or is that ok since you admit that you wish Bush would die? I wish Carter would die so I guess we have something in common. Respect is earned and if the president doesn't show respect to Congressmen then why should they show him respect?
Diogenes @ 3:35 PM,
I do recall that you once mistook GW for either LOL or CK. I think you need to get you head checked out since you have quite a selective memory.
THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE WILL NEVER ADMIT IT, BUT THEY WOULD BE SCREAMING AT EACH OTHER IF THEY WERE ALL IN THE SAME ROOM. THERE IS NO CIVILITY HERE EITHER. INTERESTING HOW OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ACT JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE THEY REPRESENT… AMERICANS.
By TIRED OF THE HYPOCRITES ON THIS SITE , Posted September 17, 2009 8:52 AMJoe Wilson yelled "you lie" at a black president, Serena Williams went on a profanity laden tirade towards a white line judge, and Kayne West told a white girl that a black woman derserved the award she won instead. All of these were national news. All of them could be considered racial if one wanted to warp the situation.
By Anonymous , Posted September 17, 2009 10:08 AM